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Fallout 4 Players Discover Hidden Link to The Elder Scrolls

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Published 16:15 27 Nov 2025 GMT

Fallout 4 Players Discover Hidden Link to The Elder Scrolls

The plot thickens

James Lynch

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Featured Image Credit: Bethesda Entertainment

Topics: Fallout, The Elder Scrolls, Bethesda, Skyrim

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Fallout and The Elder Scrolls are Bethesda Entertainment's two big hitters, with both franchises offering deep roleplaying experiences with a ton of background lore.

That gives the player base license to trawl through every proverbial nook and cranny as they seek to discover hidden secrets, tenuous connections and obscure story elements that add to the overall experience significantly.

And that is something they have continued to do in the 14 years since Skyrim's release and the decade since Fallout 4, keeping both games very much alive in the process.

Now, a new potential link between the two games has been discovered, and it all adds to an increasingly compelling tapestry of fan theories.

Fallout and The Elder Scrolls Could Be in the Same Universe

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Over on Reddit, one user shared an image that they believe connects Fallout 4 characters Mama Murphy and Lorenzo Cabot. Mama Murphy is supposed to have psychic powers, helping the protagonist find their son Shaun, whilst Lorenzo Cabot has been granted immortality by a mysterious artifact that he wears on his head.

As the post points out, that artifact and Mama Murphy's earrings share a very similar design, possibly pointing to a cancelled plot connection.

So where does The Elder Scrolls come into all of this? Well, both items in question look very much like the designs of the dwarves or Dwemer from that game, as one of the top comments points out: "This is a fun theory. Personally I think both look a bit like scavenged bits of dwarven stuff in Elder Scrolls as well."

It's not the first potential link between the two franchises that could point to them both being set in the same universe. Specifically, Nirnroot was discovered by a Brotherhood of Steel Scribe at the mouth of a river in Fallout 4, and we can see the plant being experimented on aboard the Prydwyn.

The obvious conclusion would be that Bethesda popped the plant model into the game as a fun little Easter egg for players of both franchises (of which there are many) to enjoy. Unfortunately, that isn't particularly fun to talk about, so we're choosing to take it as an important artifact in the quest for truth instead.

It looks like that's all we're going to have to make do with for a while now anyway, with Fallout 5 not set to enter mainstream discussion until the release of The Elder Scrolls VI, which itself is years away.

Please hurry up Todd.

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